Bird and Fortune – Subprime Crisis

May7


John Bird and John Fortune (the Long Johns) brilliantly, and accurately, describing the mindset of the investment banking community in this satirical interview.

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25 Comments to

“Bird and Fortune – Subprime Crisis”

  1. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 7:11 am ducksoup2007 Says:

    @dslcobra yes and now the hyper power that was America is going to be playing seound phildel to P.R.C and India i am not anti America but this is the shape of things to come i have visted china and india and seen it with my own eyes and it all happend while bush was in power to my knowlege bush jr


  2. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 8:03 am eliasmouawad Says:

    Search for
    “MARC FABER MADNESS”


  3. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 8:28 am illdawg1234 Says:

    ahahahaha


  4. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 9:05 am bilaczenko Says:

    Solami pirates say they are subsidiaries of Goldman Sach


  5. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 10:01 am dslcobra Says:

    @jaguarclaw

    It wasn’t just mortgages. It was trillions of dollars of IMAGINARY MONEY based on CREDIT/MORTGAGE debts. George W Bush ran 2 wars while giving tax cuts (to keep us pacified) and used CREDIT LOANS to imitate ECONOMIC GROWTH.

    There was no GROWTH. It was really SHRINKAGE of the job market and our assets.

    When is someone gonna stand up and say this out loud? All America has been doing is transferring its wealth and jobs to CHINA AND INDIA.


  6. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 10:35 am dslcobra Says:

    @jaguarclaw

    Well Peter Schiff never answers the toughest question:

    “what happens when you ened the welfare state and everyone who was on it becomes homeless”.

    Those idiots Schiff and Ron Paul are campaigning for a ideology and a capitalist utopia that are fantasy. Truth of the matter is, FREE MARKET CAPITALISM will KILL AMERICA. America can’t compete with the 1 Billion plus slave labor from Asia.


  7. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 11:04 am jaguarclaw Says:

    @dslcobra Ron Paul and Schiff just blame all problems on too much government or low interest rates. They never place blame on criminal activity, a hijacking of government or the tool that allows casino phoney capitalism possible. The Derivatives! Ron Paul is illumimati, his role is to appear on your side and lead you astray. I have never encountered one Ron Paul supporter who can explain to me what problem a gold standard will solve.


  8. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 11:28 am jaguarclaw Says:

    I’m sorry but a bunch of crappy mortgages didnt bring the world financial system down. The real reason for the massive losses was derivatives, or bets that house prices would rise forever. Its basically a form of do it yourself insurance withought proper regulation.


  9. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 12:26 pm dslcobra Says:

    @farforathreem

    These guys were better than Peter Schiff and Ron Paul combined.


  10. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 12:42 pm farforathreem Says:

    looooooooooooooool hahahaha comedians expecting the financial global crisis!


  11. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 1:07 pm RuflessRecords Says:

    @JP2times2007 I don’t agree, we broke the records for all time home ownership in the 2000’s so we had more than ever before. Pre 1970, home loans were based on ability to repay and creditworthiness, not misguided sympathy for people who didn’t qualify.

    I don’t know if there’s any good way to set up a charity to help people buy homes, too lengthy time to repay, and too big of a loan


  12. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 1:56 pm JP2times2007 Says:

    @RuflessRecords
    I think you are missing the point about what made wall st as dynamic as it is today. The history of US finance is about banks integrating working and poor people into financial markets. Its true of early farmers as it is of the rust belt laid off workers who maintain their living standards by using credits and borrowing against mortgages. Sure people took on debts they couldnt afford – wall st took on debt they couldnt afford either. The US Tres is old bankers not poor people.


  13. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 2:56 pm themagicofcoupons Says:

    funny


  14. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 3:23 pm themagicofcoupons Says:

    this is different


  15. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 4:05 pm kibk8al Says:

    These guys are brilliant! Have they done new stuff more recently?


  16. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 4:36 pm tristramshandy3 Says:

    It’s just amusing (and alarming) that at a time when the republic just got royally sodomized by the financial sector on wall street- millions of middle class and poor americans (who watch fox entertainment channel and mistake it for news) are worried about the communist threat.

    This is how corporate media distorts and destroys society.

    Have a nice day.


  17. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 5:30 pm RuflessRecords Says:

    shouldn’t have used the word Commies, you’re very sensitive about it

    yah Goldman Sachs promised me free overdraft charges for 3 months if I posted this…

    when I add that to the oil barrels I get in the mail from Exxon, I basically have it made


  18. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 5:52 pm tristramshandy3 Says:

    bankers aren’t commies- they are greedy capitalists- and THEY are the largest threat to our republic today.

    On some level- I know you can see that.
    But hey, if you want to travel back to the 50’s and yell at the red menace, go right ahead.

    Goldman Sachs should send you a fucking thank you card though :)


  19. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 6:17 pm RuflessRecords Says:

    well tristram, I’ve watched some Rambo movies recently and it does appear violence is the answer, ‘least when small-town sheriffs or Commies are involved


  20. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 6:53 pm tristramshandy3 Says:

    I think it works the other way around- wall street always gets away with murder, and govt is a convenient target :)

    How much did Goldman Sachs and bank of America make this year?

    How wonderful.

    How about we burn wall street to the ground and grow our own fucking food- of course, shooting anyone who says otherwise.

    LOL.
    This is fun!


  21. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 7:33 pm tristramshandy3 Says:

    I’m sorry- I just read your post above and you are NOT a blind right wing ideologue who is spewing the right wing talking points: that the crisis was 100% the fault of govt and poor people.

    On a completely unrelated note:

    Have you read the complete essays of Michelle de Montaigne?
    It’s probably the dingle greatest collection of wisdom ever assembled by one human.


  22. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 8:19 pm RuflessRecords Says:

    I would say Wall Street deserves blame but that the US would be in a 7-8% unemployment situation without the idiotic govt policy of giving huge home loans to people who couldn’t afford them and were in some cases on welfare. Instead it’s 10%.

    Govt always gets away with murder, Wall Street’s always a convenient target. They deserve blame, so does govt. How about no more loans ever for anyone who doesn’t qualify according to market standards and shoot anyone who says otherwise?


  23. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 8:34 pm tristramshandy3 Says:

    would you say the bankers and hedge fund managers selling those credit default swaps as triple AAA rated securities perhaps indicates a systemic problem on wall street that goes FAR deeper than poor people and govt mandates to loan?

    Also, could you discuss the incentive structure on wall street and how that helps to increase risk?

    Thanks

    I know the right is desperately trying to blame EVERYTHING on govt and poor people- but they have to- otherwise, they have to blame banks- and that’s a no no


  24. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 9:30 pm RuflessRecords Says:

    tristram, that they’re financial vehicles for spreading the risk from mortgages that they’re based on…and when stupid govt policy is to pressure banks to give out mortgages to people that don’t qualify, you’re going to have more mortgages than usual go bankrupt and consequently more damage done to banks who’ve staked a lot of their wealth on these securities


  25. Avatar May 7th, 2010 at 10:08 pm tristramshandy3 Says:

    What do you know about credit default swaps and derivatives?


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